BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

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BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by dcarver » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:37 pm

It's been rainy. No riding. So time in shop futzing with BT pairings...

Kinda long video at 11 minutes, but there are a lot of steps.

Hope it helps someone, somewhere, sometime.

Like ME!

sorry. in a bit. had personal info on video.

OK, got the personal info off the video



BlueTooth Pairing

Zumo 590, Sena SM10, Sena 20S, iPhone 6+

1) Overview
a) Pair all devices so that:
i) Phone calls can be made and received
ii) Music from iPhone
iii) Music from 590 .mp3
iv) Radar detector

b) Initial steps
i) Unpair all existing pairings
ii) Reboot
iii) Pair
iv) Test

2) Unpairing
a) iPhone6
i) Settings  Bluetooth  ‘Forget this Device

b) Sena 20S
i) Depress ‘Jog Button’ (round in middle) until ‘Configuration Menu’ heard after voice prompt ‘Intercom Pairing’.
ii) Rotate dial CCW ~4 clicks until ‘Delete all Pairings’ heard.
iii) Press ‘Phone’ button (small black rubber button on side)

c) 590 Zumo
i) Settings  Bluetooth  ‘Unpair Device’

d) Sena SM10
i) Hold center button down ~14 seconds until both Orange and Blue lights flash quickly
ii) Release button then press once
iii) Both lights should be solid on, no blinking

3) Pairing – must be done in this order
a) iPhone to 590
i) iPhone  Settings  Bluetooth
ii) 590  Settings  Bluetooth
iii) 590  ‘Initial Bluetooth Setup Screen’  press iPhone icon
iv) 590  Press ‘OK’ at ‘Set Phone to Discover’ prompt
v) iPhone  ‘Pair’
vi) iPhone  ‘Allow Sync’
vii) 590  ‘Done’
viii) 590  Apps  Phone. Wait a minute or two. Screen should have:
(1) Call Home
(2) Phone Book
(3) Browse Categories
(4) Call History
(5) Dial
(6) Voice Dial
ix) If missing last three,
(1) 590  Settings  Bluetooth turn BT off then back on

b) iPhone to 20S
i) iPhone  Settings  Bluetooth
ii) 20S  Hold ‘Phone’ Button 5 seconds until ‘Phone Pairing’ prompt
iii) iPhone  Select ‘Sena20s’. Should hear ‘Headset is Paired’ prompt

c) SM10 to 20s
i) SM10  Press center button approximately 7 seconds until Orange light flashes quickly
ii) 20S  Depress ‘Jog’ button 5 seconds until ‘Intercom Pairing’ prompt then within 1 second depress ‘Phone’ button. Should hear ‘Second mobile phone pairing’ prompt.
(1) Should soon hear ‘Your headset is paired’ followed by ‘Phone Connected’

4) Testing
a) 590
i)  590  Media Player  set Input to MP3  Play
ii)  590  Media Player  set Input to iPhone/iPod  Play

b) Phone
i) Music
(1) Be sure 590 Input is set to ‘iPhone/iPod’
(2) iPhone  Music  Play

ii) Have someone call you, answer on 590. Can you hear them?
(1) Can they hear you? If not:
(a) iPhone  change phone call screen to ‘Sena20s’. You have to be using Mobile Phone1 pairing to transmit. When you hang up, everything will default to normal parameters.

c) GPS
i) With music playing, start a route. Should hear directions.

d) Radar Detector
i) Turn off and on, should hear squawks in headset/earbuds
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by bill lumberg » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:32 pm

I have a Shoei/Sena SRL/iPhone X/Garmin 595 relationship that has always been dysfunctional, regardless of pairing order. So much so that that I excommunicated the Garmin from any audio access to my helmet long ago. This inspires me to give it another go. I also have a Sena 20S Evo arriving today for my backup helmet. What a timely and informative thread. :ugeek:
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by 0face » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:53 pm

This should be "stickied" to the top. I'm still old school wired in, but one day....


Awesome job!
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by Viper_Dad » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:22 am

bill lumberg wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:32 pm
I have a Shoei/Sena SRL/iPhone X/Garmin 595 relationship that has always been dysfunctional, regardless of pairing order. So much so that that I excommunicated the Garmin from any audio access to my helmet long ago. This inspires me to give it another go. I also have a Sena 20S Evo arriving today for my backup helmet. What a timely and informative thread. :ugeek:
I got them all connected through bluetooth but fought with the proper audio level between my music, comms, and Garmin so I, too, took the Garmin out of the mix. Now everything I hear is good and I just have to peek downward to view the GPS.
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by bigjohnsd » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:52 am

This Video helps in pairing Sena with Packtalk.

https://youtu.be/GxGGNkiYS0E

This Video explains the whys and wherefores of cross brand intercom pairings.

https://youtu.be/DN1jkjBiw6A
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by bill lumberg » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:05 pm

Will the Sena and the phone work together normally using the setup, when the GPS is removed from the equation? Like if I’m not using it that day?
dcarver wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:37 pm
It's been rainy. No riding. So time in shop futzing with BT pairings...

Kinda long video at 11 minutes, but there are a lot of steps.

Hope it helps someone, somewhere, sometime.

Like ME!

sorry. in a bit. had personal info on video.

OK, got the personal info off the video



BlueTooth Pairing

Zumo 590, Sena SM10, Sena 20S, iPhone 6+

1) Overview
a) Pair all devices so that:
i) Phone calls can be made and received
ii) Music from iPhone
iii) Music from 590 .mp3
iv) Radar detector

b) Initial steps
i) Unpair all existing pairings
ii) Reboot
iii) Pair
iv) Test

2) Unpairing
a) iPhone6
i) Settings  Bluetooth  ‘Forget this Device

b) Sena 20S
i) Depress ‘Jog Button’ (round in middle) until ‘Configuration Menu’ heard after voice prompt ‘Intercom Pairing’.
ii) Rotate dial CCW ~4 clicks until ‘Delete all Pairings’ heard.
iii) Press ‘Phone’ button (small black rubber button on side)

c) 590 Zumo
i) Settings  Bluetooth  ‘Unpair Device’

d) Sena SM10
i) Hold center button down ~14 seconds until both Orange and Blue lights flash quickly
ii) Release button then press once
iii) Both lights should be solid on, no blinking

3) Pairing – must be done in this order
a) iPhone to 590
i) iPhone  Settings  Bluetooth
ii) 590  Settings  Bluetooth
iii) 590  ‘Initial Bluetooth Setup Screen’  press iPhone icon
iv) 590  Press ‘OK’ at ‘Set Phone to Discover’ prompt
v) iPhone  ‘Pair’
vi) iPhone  ‘Allow Sync’
vii) 590  ‘Done’
viii) 590  Apps  Phone. Wait a minute or two. Screen should have:
(1) Call Home
(2) Phone Book
(3) Browse Categories
(4) Call History
(5) Dial
(6) Voice Dial
ix) If missing last three,
(1) 590  Settings  Bluetooth turn BT off then back on

b) iPhone to 20S
i) iPhone  Settings  Bluetooth
ii) 20S  Hold ‘Phone’ Button 5 seconds until ‘Phone Pairing’ prompt
iii) iPhone  Select ‘Sena20s’. Should hear ‘Headset is Paired’ prompt

c) SM10 to 20s
i) SM10  Press center button approximately 7 seconds until Orange light flashes quickly
ii) 20S  Depress ‘Jog’ button 5 seconds until ‘Intercom Pairing’ prompt then within 1 second depress ‘Phone’ button. Should hear ‘Second mobile phone pairing’ prompt.
(1) Should soon hear ‘Your headset is paired’ followed by ‘Phone Connected’

4) Testing
a) 590
i)  590  Media Player  set Input to MP3  Play
ii)  590  Media Player  set Input to iPhone/iPod  Play

b) Phone
i) Music
(1) Be sure 590 Input is set to ‘iPhone/iPod’
(2) iPhone  Music  Play

ii) Have someone call you, answer on 590. Can you hear them?
(1) Can they hear you? If not:
(a) iPhone  change phone call screen to ‘Sena20s’. You have to be using Mobile Phone1 pairing to transmit. When you hang up, everything will default to normal parameters.

c) GPS
i) With music playing, start a route. Should hear directions.

d) Radar Detector
i) Turn off and on, should hear squawks in headset/earbuds
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by dcarver » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:22 pm

Bill, yes it will.

The Sena 20s has two BT channels.

Mobile Phone Pairing 1 is phone to Sena 20s (earbuds)
Mobile Phone Pairing 2 is Sena SM10 to Sena20s. (GPS and Radar to earbuds).

So if Mobile Pairing 2 isn't used, Pairing 1 is still active.

Hope this helps, Don
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Post by LKLD » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:00 pm

I used to be able to say "Hey Siri" and use my iPhone that way. Not anymore. I wonder if phone updates have eliminated that option.
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Post by bill lumberg » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:29 pm

It still works. Just tried it. Must be a setting somewhere in your last update.
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Post by LKLD » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:09 pm

I've checked the phone's Siri options, and that looks good. I don't get it. Will keep looking. Using iPhone 7.
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by bill lumberg » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:55 pm

On my SRL, I have to hold the center button for a few seconds if I want to use Siri.i should have put that in my previous post.
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Re: BlueTooth HowTo - Sena20s, SM10, iPhone6, Zumo 590

Post by LKLD » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:58 pm

So, no “Hey Siri”?


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