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Touch Up Paint

Post by nfa1eab » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:47 pm

Does Yamaha sell touch up paint? Or can I get a good match via an auto parts store? 2015 Gray color.

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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by raYzerman » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:20 pm

Most bike paints are only available from Colorite, however be aware it's likely they are not a good match and need to be adjusted. Most FJR colours are hard to match, but I'd guess the AssFault Gray might be the easiest.
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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by nfa1eab » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:24 pm

Previous owner dropped in gravel lot and just looking to somewhat hide some scratches on the left mirror. Not worried about perfect. Even with a perfect color match, my lack of paint skills, would still F it up. I can fix just about anything mechanically, but ask me to paint it, and I totally suck. No left brain function for me.

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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by danh600 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:06 am

Colorite has a wizard that takes you to a page with different options.
I have no experience with it.

https://www.colorrite.com/product/yamah ... n-2582.cfm

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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by BkerChuck » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:13 am

Local auto body supply shop that I buy from for my work will custom blend and match color if you provide a panel that they can work from for a day or two. I was going to give them a try as I need some 2014 touch up but the issue I'm running into is they won't sell the clear coat is small quantity and I won't need a pint just to touch up some scratches. I know they do really nice work but I'm likely to just go with Color Rite as they sell in smaller amounts.

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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by raYzerman » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:48 pm

Similar to what Chuck is saying...... The experienced painters (like Garauld and Festus) can give you more professional advice, but the basics are prepping the surface (6-800 grit sanding and cleaning), spraying the base coat and clearcoating. What I have done in the past is take a larger panel such as the FJR side panel or adjustable panel in to a paint supply, who will then scan it and mix up a rattle can for you. Practice on a piece first perhaps, but spray your panel trying to avoid overspray or too thick a coat, let dry or bake it with a heat lamp, and a day or two later, use some rubbing compound if necessary. Then follow up with a good automotive clearcoat... my source gave me Dupont A-7480S Acrylic Trim and Jamb Clear (comes in rattle can), and it sprays on well.
The other thing I have done is go to my local auto store and picked up a small touch-up bottle (comes with abrasive pen, brush and a paint marker type clear ~$15), prep the scratch or gouge, filling the gouge with thin coats until it is level with the rest of the surface, then with polishing compound, buff it smooth after a couple of days of drying. You can usually find some auto paint that is close to matching.... and on something like a mirror or panel which is not near any other panel, any slight mismatches in colour only you will know it isn't perfect. From my automotive experience where we had to have our paint department and multiple suppliers have good paint matches, I can tell you the layman can barely notice a shade or two off, while the experienced can.
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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by danh600 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:38 pm

I think Garauld or someone posted the Red FJR is actually a combination of layers of paint of a different colors. Like maybe silver,red, clear.
That's going to be fun to match after the fact. However, that is what makes that red really pop and look nice.

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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by BkerChuck » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:23 pm

I'm pretty sure Garuald has even said he won't paint any more of the 2014 stuff for that very reason. From Color Rite it is a 3 part paint, base layer, top coat, and clear. I ordered mine today and didn't realize they're located in PA so Fed Ex tracking shows I should get it tomorrow. Local shop can't even be sure they'd have a match and mix ready that fast and they'd be more expensive. I'm just going to try my best to hide the scratches the best I can.
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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by Viper_Dad » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:42 pm

Festus paints all my parts, I merely provide (barely) adequate sanding prep. However, we've learned that the 2013 Stone Gray (or Yellowish Gray) is extremely tricky to get right, even from ColorRite. Two coats of color is not enough but three can leave it too dark. Their primer also tends to spit out clumps, have had a few cursing moments because of that. The ColorRite clearcoat does not like to stick to existing clearcoat so touching up small areas often proves difficult. Overall there aren't many options for the FJR so ColorRite may be your best choice anyways.
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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by garauld » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 pm

... and a day or two later, use some rubbing compound if necessary.
NO!!! - do not do this on color base coats. It will throw off the pearl effect. Only the primer and clear topcoats should be sanded smooth if necessary. I strongly suggest to avoid using touchup pens. It will look like crap. These metallic paints must be sprayed. Colorrite sells spray cans, small bottles (or cans for larger jobs) of the base color. Spray lightly and often until the color looks right. You can get clear topcoat most anywhere. Final wet sand with 2000 grit and then polish and it should look good enuf. Or have Festus do it. ;)
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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by Festus » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:59 am

I'm no master painter, I'm a hobby painter. I agree with Gerauld, the paint pens for metallic do not work. Well, they do work, but you standards need to be at Ray Charles levels.

Colorite seems to be the only game in town and they put that stupid little asterisk (*) next to so many colors and that says "May not be an exact color match". I've had colorite paint match terribly and I've had it match almost perfectly. Just depends on the can.

These colors are just so hard to match because every layer/coat changed the color. You are trying to match colors that were sprayed with robots to the least amount of paint to possibly use. There's no way to replicate that by hand with a paint gun. You can't put paint on that perfectly by hand. So the colors might be perfect, if sprayed by a robot, but it needs to be altered to end up being the same color when sprayed by hand, which I do not believe it is.

Painting with rattle cans is surprisingly easy to do, and do a good job with. I'll try and write something up. I need to paint some stuff this winter so maybe I'll do a write up on it then. I'm confident most everyone here could do it. It's just about patience and following the steps. Base coat/clear coat is pretty easy to do.
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Re: Touch Up Paint

Post by wheatonFJR » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:23 am

What size roller do I use?
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