The Official 2019 Calendar Contest

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Re: The Official 2019 Calendar Contest

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Hppants wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:24 am Often scenic calanders have a caption of where the image was taken. Good idea!

Regarding aspect ratio, nope. Let the artist present his/her work and let the masses judge for themself. Minimum resolution is another matter. Ya can’t do anything with a thumbnail.
You need aspect ratio. Because it's going to be cropped when it gets to the calendar. The guy submitting the image needs to know how it's going to be cropped so he can make sure he submits the right image with the right format. The submitter should do the cropping not the guy assembling the calendar because cropping is a part of the artistic editing and the submitter should be handling that.
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gixxerjasen wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:24 pm
Hppants wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:24 am Often scenic calanders have a caption of where the image was taken. Good idea!

Regarding aspect ratio, nope. Let the artist present his/her work and let the masses judge for themself. Minimum resolution is another matter. Ya can’t do anything with a thumbnail.
You need aspect ratio. Because it's going to be cropped when it gets to the calendar. The guy submitting the image needs to know how it's going to be cropped so he can make sure he submits the right image with the right format. The submitter should do the cropping not the guy assembling the calendar because cropping is a part of the artistic editing and the submitter should be handling that.
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Do what you want. Personally, I'd rather know the info ahead of time so I can crop my image on my computer that comes out of my point and shoot or phone or whatever. Designflaw06 is going to crop it for you if you don't. This would both save him time and work, and allow you to know your image is being presented and voted on as it'll appear in the calendar. If that's not important to you, feel free to send in something outside of the final product.
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It's pretty simple. If you entered a magazine contest for story writing, and the magazine is only going to give a printable a space for 500 words, wouldn't you like to know that in advance? Or would you rather the magazine figure out which 200 words to cut out of your winning 700 word story? I'd rather know so I can fit my story into the printable constraints that exist.
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This seems to be a thing for you. Just ask him what he wants before you crop yours. Me...itz jes a pichur, man.
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Timmy, just tell us the desired aspect ratio, and let each photo-taker crop/adjust/whatever to meet the required aspect ratio.
wheatonFJR wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:59 pm Yeah, so how do I do that with my point and shoot?
You do the cropping in the computer. Load the photo, then crop to meet the aspect ratio. You can use Windows Photo Viewer. You can also crop the photo in Word, but it takes some manipulation to do a "Save As" and get your photo out of the Word docx.

And I'm one of those guys who thinks the motorbike isn't the most important element in the photo. Mountains, dude; mountains.
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Uncle Hud wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:53 pm Timmy, just tell us the desired aspect ratio, and let each photo-taker crop/adjust/whatever to meet the required aspect ratio.
wheatonFJR wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:59 pm Yeah, so how do I do that with my point and shoot?
You do the cropping in the computer. Load the photo, then crop to meet the aspect ratio. You can use Windows Photo Viewer. You can also crop the photo in Word, but it takes some manipulation to do a "Save As" and get your photo out of the Word docx.

And I'm one of those guys who thinks the motorbike isn't the most important element in the photo. Mountains, dude; mountains.
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I don't like being told what that aspect ratio must be 'cause it infringes on the artistic expression of the photographer, but I do get it. Went through this with the magazines. My dad, the freelance shutterbug says "they make the rules". He's right. Each photograph on the calendar has to wind up the same size. It is what it is.

It's just that very often, there is a really good (or perfect) photograph that has something stupid caught in the outer edge of it. I crop that out and voila - into the ride report it goes. With the a/r issue, I have to crop all 4 sides and often, that forces me to cut good stuff out on at least 2 other sides, and often all 3. At least with the calendar (like the magazines), I know what it's going to be, whether I do it or not.
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This thread annoys me a little. Let me explain.

I simply do not want the workload for Tim to increase with any or all consternation from the group. The calendar is absolutely one of my favorite things. I know I could put one of them together of the top 12 shots of my bike, but I really love seeing where others have gone.

All the parameters are fine by me. Tim does all the work, let him do his thing. Last thing we all want is for him to say is "Those FJR guys are a bunch of nagging babies, I am done doing calendars"

Just my penny. (I know its not worth 2 cents)
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Cav47 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:00 am Just my penny. (I know its not worth 2 cents)
Well, dammit, do the math and just throw in another penny!

Meanwhile, in Canada we did away with the silly things, you should too!
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raYzerman wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:25 am
Cav47 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:00 am Just my penny. (I know its not worth 2 cents)
Well, dammit, do the math and just throw in another penny!

Meanwhile, in Canada we did away with the silly things, you should too!
I'd say it was worth much more...even a two-nie! I wholeheartedly say, make it as effortless for the person actually putting the time in. Screw gixxerjasen...he can deal with it. :lol: :lol: :lol: ...and so can we.
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The image I end up using is 2300x1800, but I don't really know what the margin of error is. Despite my best efforts, the photos aren't always printed perfectly positioned. I'll look back through my old calendars and see if I can get a better idea. There's also the spiral bound page connector to consider.

I still have to turn away pictures that are in the portrait orientation or ones with resolution so low that it wouldn't print well as a postage stamp. And you think everyone is going to crop and size correctly themselves? Use that aspect ratio if you want, but I am going to tweak it as I see fit. Honestly, it will only affect one or two people at most. What I will try to do is crop the image first before uploading it so it is as representative as it can be to the final product when people vote.

While I'm at it, keep your camera on the highest resolution and don't edit original images. Make a copy. Storage is cheap and if you're disciplined about your directory structure, it doesn't add any overhead. You never know when you'll want some of that deleted portion back.

As for the caption idea, I've done it in the past. Most don't submit anything and the ones that do range from "This is my bike" to a hppants ride report novel. What you can do is submit captions for your photo and they will show up on the voting page.

Am I annoyed? No, but I do really like the word consternation. I don't have any of that either, I just like the word. I asked for feedback, but I understand how others can miscontrue feedback for ungratefulness or criticism. That is especially true in a text-based form of communication. And not to sound like a jackass, but I hold all the cards here. I don't have to listen to or abide by anyone's feedback. Next year could only be mugshot photos from Bust's beastiality arrests. Fortunately, I care about making a nice calendar that anyone could be proud of hanging. Every year, I'll continue to make improvements. This past contest improvements weren't visible to you guys, but all the background work I put in made life a lot easier for me. My goal for next year will be to get the images more representative of the final product. Maybe one day, I'll get to the point where you can upload your own image and do the appropriate cropping through the site yourself. I know it's possible, but there's only so much time.

At this point of the year, I'm happy to be done with the calendar. It allows me to say something is checked off my list and I can enjoy the fruits of my labor. Don't worry, I'll be back at it in the fall. :)
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woohoo!
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Well done, Timmy.
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Fair enough.

"Ride Report Novel".... Hmmm.... kind of has a ring to it.
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IMHO, forum handle is fine, don't need a caption... the photos speak 1000 words as is. You've done a fine job, Tim. I'm just happy to have a calendar.
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I am also enjoying the fruits of your labor! Thanks, man; I owe you a beer!

(... and if you wanna know where the photo was taken, PM the photographer!)
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I like this point:
Cav47 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:00 am Tim does all the work, let him do his thing. Last thing we all want is for him to say is "Those FJR guys are a bunch of nagging babies, I am done doing calendars"
and this one even more:
DesignFlaw06 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:48 pm And not to sound like a jackass, but I hold all the cards here.
Note(s) to self - what can I do to make this better or easier for Tim? Camera on highest resolution setting - always, and shoot more landscape oriented photos.

And most importantly - THANK YOU, Tim - for your efforts in running another awesome calendar project!!

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Here's a thought on one of the comments above - captions.

One thing that could be done is set up a slide show that displays on the landing page, and with that, add in any short descriptions that are provided for each photo. If you want to include a link to the ride report (if you did one) for when that picture was taken, it could be added too.

Like this.
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Nice!
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