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Re: What did you do to your FJR today?

Post by El Toro Joe » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:17 am

rode it to work again...
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Post by bill lumberg » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:58 pm

Conducted a pre-dawn raid on US129. Okay- I left fairly early, but it was mid morning when I was there. Tried out the black 20307 I picked up a while back. It will never be a touring shield, but I think it’ll see a lot of hot weather use. Around 6 hours total. Not a bad run, considering I snuck it in during the workweek.

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Post by gixxerjasen » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:59 pm

gixxerjasen wrote:
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Anybody have recommendations on a mesh jacket? It was warm today.
Mine is on order, I'll let you know what I think when it comes in.
Arrived today. The liner is stupid, but thankfully I have other liners and rainsuits. I like it, but haven't ridden with it yet. I lost my mind and was stupid when selecting my pants size, so they got sent back for an exchange.

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Post by fontanaman » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:41 pm

Road it 400 miles today including Rattlesnake Grade and Dooley Mountain Highway. Shacking up in John Day Oregon for two nights. Restaurants are open and life is good.

Oh I found a use for sport mode - Northeastern Oregon. 👍. Nothing better than riding in the box.

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Re: What did you do to your FJR today?

Post by bill lumberg » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:46 am

A friend gave me a rev’it gt- air, last generation. I have liked it so well that I ordered a gt-r air 2. I ordered the rev’it rain shell a while back, and, between a heated liner and that rain shell, I can comfortably ride from pretty cold to pretty damn hot. Let me know how your jacket holds up. It certainly looks good.
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Sat May 30, 2020 12:57 am
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Anybody have recommendations on a mesh jacket? It was warm today.
Mine is on order, I'll let you know what I think when it comes in.
Arrived today. The liner is stupid, but thankfully I have other liners and rainsuits. I like it, but haven't ridden with it yet. I lost my mind and was stupid when selecting my pants size, so they got sent back for an exchange.

Rev'it Tornado 3 in Blue.

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Post by BkerChuck » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:45 am

Rode mine to work.
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Post by gixxerjasen » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 am

bill lumberg wrote:
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I ordered the rev’it rain shell a while back
What rain shell are you using? I have to admit, I'm not a fan of the internal rain liner logic. Also, a common complaint on this one is that the internal rain liner is also the thermal liner. This is a summer jacket, last thing I need when it's rainy and humid is a thermal liner. I knew that going in, I already have heated gear for when it's cold, and a rain suit. That said, I'll probably be needing a new rain suit in the near future, curious what you are using with your jacket.
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Post by bill lumberg » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:21 am

For hot weather, I ordered the cyclone 2 rain jacket. Works fine. Comes in its’ own stuff sack. Which I haven’t used since I removed the jacket from it.
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Re: What did you do to your FJR today?

Post by raYzerman » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:33 am

My 4 season strategy, Olympia mesh, Rev-it looks similar to an Airglide... inner liner on recent Olympia is two piece, one thermal one wind-water proof. Use base layers to manage temperature... LD Comfort, then heated liner (W&S breathable for a little airflow) for up to say 68F, plug in an turn on if it gets colder, add waterproof liner if wanting to block wind when freezing, OR, rain jacket on top. Works 4 seasons, don't have to pack much.
Inner waterproofing for rain is just dumb. Gortex doesn't do it for me, none have enough venting for hotter weather especially behind a fairing and windshield..... that's better for Europe when you have often cooler and sometimes damper conditions, occasional rain, it works well there.
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Post by danh600 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:21 am

gixxerjasen wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:59 pm
gixxerjasen wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 12:57 am
fontanaman wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 10:22 pm
Anybody have recommendations on a mesh jacket? It was warm today.
Mine is on order, I'll let you know what I think when it comes in.
Arrived today. The liner is stupid, but thankfully I have other liners and rainsuits. I like it, but haven't ridden with it yet. I lost my mind and was stupid when selecting my pants size, so they got sent back for an exchange.

Rev'it Tornado 3 in Blue.

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I have had a Revit Tornado jacket for 6 years. It get wear and gets washed. The HV color has faded a little but other than that it is fine.
I love Rev'it gear.
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Re: What did you do to your FJR today?

Post by bill lumberg » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:34 am

Today, my bike watched as I changed out the tire on the trailer (no, my FJR has never been on it, though it has a motorcycle chock). It wasn’t fun, but it wasn’t bad.

Regarding gear- I don’t think I’ll ever settle for less than aerostich for cooler weather, and as ray notes above, mesh with a couple of liners covers the rest of the year nicely. Regarding rev’it- I want the sand 3 jacket. Badly. But it doesn’t perform any function that I don’t already have covered, and it costs too much to justify since it wouldn’t be filling a hole. I have a new Olympia xmoto that is superb. They know (knew) what they’re doing. But the XL xmoto is a little too big for me. The xl of the sand fits like they custom made it for me.
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Post by danh600 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:57 am

danh600 wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:21 am
gixxerjasen wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:59 pm
gixxerjasen wrote:
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Mine is on order, I'll let you know what I think when it comes in.
Arrived today. The liner is stupid, but thankfully I have other liners and rainsuits. I like it, but haven't ridden with it yet. I lost my mind and was stupid when selecting my pants size, so they got sent back for an exchange.

Rev'it Tornado 3 in Blue.

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I have had a Revit Tornado jacket for 6 years. It get wear and gets washed. The HV color has faded a little but other than that it is fine.
I love Rev'it gear.

Edit : Jasen what is it you don't like about the liner? My jacket is the original tornado, not sure if they changed the liners. Mine has a nice warm quilted liner. It's actually too much for here in Florida. Generally if we get cold weather it heats up as the day goes on. So I would rather layer up than take the time to put in the jacket liner. I seldom use them. However it looks like a decent liner for someone to use in cold weather. I highly doubt it's water proof like advertised.

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Post by gixxerjasen » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:45 pm

bill lumberg wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:34 am
Regarding gear- I don’t think I’ll ever settle for less than aerostich for cooler weather
bill lumberg wrote:
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Regarding rev’it- I want the sand 3 jacket. Badly. But it costs too much to justify since it wouldn’t be filling a hole.
This sounds like someone with an old Aerostich that hasn't priced them recently.
Used to be you could get a Roadcrafter Classic for about $900
Rev'It Sand 3 Jacket and Pants will run you $858. That's cheaper than the old Aerostich price.
Current Aerostich Roadcrafter Classic will run you $1227.00 for the cheapest one, add another $150 for the stealth.

I'd looked at them while shopping recently. I'm thinking Aerostich saw what people were willing to pay for Klim stuff and decided to jump on the price bandwagon.
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Post by bill lumberg » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:39 pm

Lost my post. The sand 3 and aerostich are not comparable. The 3 is mid range and priced a little high for it. Aerostich darien is top tier and priced like it. The roadcrafter has been around since 1983, the Dariens since around 1992. I rode a long time before I treated myself to top end stuff, and I’ll never go back if I can help it, not as long as I’m riding heavy and often.

If I could get comparable longevity, comfort, convenience, dryness, and customer service from anyone else at a comparable or lower price, I’d be all about it. Haven’t found anything comparable yet.
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Post by ericboutin » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:20 am

Rode it to the DMV....well I guess yesterday now....anyway rode to the DMV to get a plate for the recently acquired hooligan bike. DMV lady was a real Beach....(like part of the job description or something), so I took a nice long round about route back to the house to simmer down. Also rode to work Monday and Tuesday.
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Post by fontanaman » Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:18 am

Abused it on some of the best roads in NE Oregon today. The ES does not put a smile on my face like my A model 09 did with a Penske/GP setup. More testing is needed but I think the rear spring is too soft for my liking. My Penske spring was 850 lbs. Not sure the rating of the ES spring. ☹️
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Post by raYzerman » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:16 am

Rear shock is 685, and obviously undersprung. The ES suspension is a compromise... you'll have to crank the preload up to two-up and whatever, then adjust damping a touch softer and hope you hit a suitable balance. Unfortunately damping is not separately adjustable front and rear.
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Post by fontanaman » Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:52 am

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Rear shock is 685, and obviously undersprung. The ES suspension is a compromise... you'll have to crank the preload up to two-up and whatever, then adjust damping a touch softer and hope you hit a suitable balance. Unfortunately damping is not separately adjustable front and rear.
Thanks Ray. This is starting to make sense now. After the ES lost its composure I cranked up the preload with a soft damping just as you said

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Post by raYzerman » Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:46 am

Hang in, a forum member might just be in the process of upgrading the spring, stay tuned... Cogent, talk to them, more diversified than dedicated suspension, Rick a former Ohlins engineer.... multi-brands familiarity.
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Rear shock is 685, and obviously undersprung. The ES suspension is a compromise... you'll have to crank the preload up to two-up and whatever, then adjust damping a touch softer and hope you hit a suitable balance. Unfortunately damping is not separately adjustable front and rear.
This what I had to do coming off of my Penske set up on the 04. It was such an improvement in the whole bike, that the suspension was a little overlooked at first, but I feel like I have it dialed in to what I like. I believe that I can ride better than I could on the 04 and a few that I have ridden with both on the 04 and now on the 15ES have commented that I look smoother and quicker from before. Maybe that is just them being nice, but I felt the same way before they mentioned it. Oh well.

On the gear discussion, I will review the Klim Induction that I got from Alex at BH moto very soon. It came UPS yesterday and I tried it on, but did not get to ride with it yet. Planning to fix that today. The fit is perfect for me. I ordered a Large and will have just enough room for a T-shirt and heated jacket if needed. I really do not believe that I will be using heated gear and this at the same time often. I bought it for the Dual Sport mostly, but after talking to Alex, he said the jacket would be great for the FJR on really hot/humid days when I did not want to wear the Kodiak for local recon. The Kodiak will always be my tour jacket because of its waterproofing. I wanted a DS jacket that was full protection yet flowed the maximum amount of air. I have a chest protector and set of elbow and knee pads, but that will not stop the road rash in other places if I went down on some rock surfaces. Alex said the Induction would fit the bill for both needs. That's why I like having him on the white phone and appreciate he gives us a pretty decent price break.
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