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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:27 pm

So just go nuts with the brakes, huh.

Okay. Be back in a jiffy.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by FJRoss » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:32 pm

wheatonFJR wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:27 pm
So just go nuts with the brakes, huh.

Okay. Be back in a jiffy.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by bigjohnsd » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:33 pm

raYzerman wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:20 pm
The Gen3's have brake light relays, that are supposed to (as I've read) not affect anything..... however, darn good point, what foreign wiring is on there and how did the fook it up (maybe didn't). Another relatively simple thing one could do if so inclined is take 12V directly to the ABS pump and see if it runs, least you'd know the thing will spin, and if it's not, then power ain't seemingly getting there.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:27 am

Thanks everybody for your trouble shooting tips. I appreciate it. I will read up, and let yall know what happens, when it happens.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:28 pm

rbentnail wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:35 pm
wheatonFJR wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:24 am
rbentnail wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:18 am
Do you have an ohmmeter to check the continuity of the test initiation device?

Do you have a small alligator clip patch cable or equivalent to use instead? Nearly anything will do. Last time I used a paper clip.
We checked the bike with two different devices, my factory device, and Griff's device...which has worked on his Gen 3. No ABS activation with either device.
The only way then to see if the test instrument is good is to try it again on a known good source, griff's bike. But also, the problem could lie in the wiring between the test connector and the ECU on your bike. Perhaps it is damaged? Or a cold solder joint in the connector itself on the bike? Something like that. You should make sure the wiring and all connections are intact. Jumping to the conclusion that the ABS Block is faulty without checking the intermediate steps to get there is going step A, B, ....., E. I'd start by ohming my test apparatus, then ohm the appropriate wires from the ABS test plug pins to the ECU.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by ionbeam » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:53 pm

wheatonFJR wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:28 pm
rbentnail wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:35 pm
...But also, the problem could lie in the wiring between the test connector and the ECU on your bike...
Thanks Russ.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by bungie4 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:47 pm

Remember when you were a kid, you'd peddle your ass off to get some speed up, then slam the pedals backwards to purposely lock up the brakes and leave long lurid skid marks and drift to stop sideways.

Hell, my buddies and I would pull wheelies on our bikes and then lock up the front wheel to keep it from spinning during the wheelie. We were cool.

... so, not having ABS is a problem?
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:48 pm

bungie4 wrote:
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Remember when you were a kid, you'd peddle your ass off to get some speed up, then slam the pedals backwards to purposely lock up the brakes and leave long lurid skid marks and drift to stop sideways.

Hell, my buddies and I would pull wheelies on our bikes and then lock up the front wheel to keep it from spinning during the wheelie. We were cool.

... so, not having ABS is a problem?
It is part of my 13. I just came off an accident where I suffered 5 broken ribs, a broken shoulder blade in back, and a collarbone in 4 pieces, and slight nerve issues in my shoulder and arm. If it can help prevent an accident, I want it...because my next accident may be my last.

No ABS on my ride this past Sunday. Awesome ride. No ABS.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by bungie4 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:26 pm

:D Just having fun bud.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:07 pm

bungie4 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:26 pm
:D Just having fun bud.
I know. For you this is something to think about on the neenernet. For me, it's a bike issue...
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by bungie4 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:24 pm

wheatonFJR wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:07 pm
bungie4 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:26 pm
:D Just having fun bud.
I know. For you this is something to think about on the neenernet. For me, it's a bike issue...
Actually, i need to thank you for percolating testing my ABS up to the front of the couple of brain cells that are still vibrating. I haven't done it in ages.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:03 pm

1911 wrote:
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Bring the bike and the book down to the farm in the morning and we’ll see if we can figure out what you overeducated engineer types have fubarred
Duane, if Griff is too busy drooling over a CB500X, I may take you up on that in a coupla weeks.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by Hppants » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:22 pm

No more non-ABS bikes for Pants. No more. Just sayin....
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by Uncle Hud » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:33 pm

bungie4 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:24 pm
Actually, i need to thank you for percolating testing my ABS up to the front of the couple of brain cells that are still vibrating. I haven't done it in ages.
Uncle Hud's ABS test procedure:

1. Find a remote piece of straight highway or a big parking lot.
2. Go there when no one else is around.
3. Wind her up to 35-40 mph and clamp on brakes while holding a straight line.
4. Feel the ABS pulses?
... Yes = everything's OK.
... No = try it again; it's kind of fun anyway.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:42 pm

Already done. No Pulse. Post 1. Slowed from 50 to 20 using rear brake only...back end fish tailing a little bit.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by bungie4 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:20 pm

Thats the weird bit with mine. I stand on the rear brake, I cannot lock it up, but I feel no pulses. Maybe I just have shitty brakes :D
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:34 pm

bungie4 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:20 pm
Thats the weird bit with mine. I stand on the rear brake, I cannot lock it up, but I feel no pulses. Maybe I just have shitty brakes :D
I could not tell I locked it up until the rear fishtailing started happening.
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by gixxerjasen » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:43 pm

Just tried HUD's method with the front brake. Anyone have cerulean silver side plastics I can get from you?

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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by wheatonFJR » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:49 pm

gixxerjasen wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:43 pm
Just tried HUD's method with the front brake. Anyone have cerulean silver side plastics I can get from you?

:D
How's your shoulder and broken collarbone and broken ribs? Just stamp on those brakes he said...
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Re: I hope I don't, but I might have a malfunctioning ABS block

Post by RacinRay » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:16 am

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